1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:18,200 you 2 00:00:24,750 --> 00:00:23,280 honey is suitably refreshed let's say 3 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:24,760 there's a Swiss pulley switched off Nana 4 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:27,730 I'm still good okay yes so where were we 5 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:29,530 okay so I just got over this absolutely 6 00:00:34,110 --> 00:00:31,930 incredible experience with this with 7 00:00:35,729 --> 00:00:34,120 this line of things which is really 8 00:00:37,710 --> 00:00:35,739 bizarre dive not dealt with in the other 9 00:00:39,150 --> 00:00:37,720 cases where where that's really happened 10 00:00:40,619 --> 00:00:39,160 before I've dealt with cases where 11 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:40,629 there's appeared to be a landed object 12 00:00:44,430 --> 00:00:42,310 but not one with a kind of row guys in 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:44,440 hazmat suits absolutely fascinating 14 00:00:53,819 --> 00:00:49,690 stuff well we're gonna move on now ws 15 00:00:57,540 --> 00:00:53,829 slate 2004 now and a lot of experience 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:00:57,550 takes place this time at Dave's house in 17 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:01,090 investor David and his friends I think 18 00:01:06,090 --> 00:01:03,790 they're quite big into a meditation and 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:06,100 just kind of relaxing and having kind of 20 00:01:09,749 --> 00:01:08,050 meditation sessions and they've actually 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:09,759 had some of their experiences have come 22 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:12,610 about through meditation and this is a 23 00:01:16,740 --> 00:01:14,440 kind of common thing that I've heard of 24 00:01:19,469 --> 00:01:16,750 difficulties as numerous companies I 25 00:01:21,260 --> 00:01:19,479 spoke with who can meditate and they've 26 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:21,270 had experiences with other entities 27 00:01:28,140 --> 00:01:25,330 while in this state and it's possible 28 00:01:30,330 --> 00:01:28,150 that in the meditative state it kind of 29 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:30,340 breaks through to their sort of level of 30 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:32,200 existence then their level of reality 31 00:01:36,899 --> 00:01:34,540 and amazing to come on through and I'm 32 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:36,909 not saying that definite and and I'm not 33 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:38,590 making any kinds at all you know some of 34 00:01:41,850 --> 00:01:39,729 you all probably think are that's really 35 00:01:45,149 --> 00:01:41,860 new-age our meditation and I don't 36 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:45,159 meditate I've never meditated my brains 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:46,960 too active from there to meditate in the 38 00:01:49,980 --> 00:01:48,250 same way I can't be hypnotized the 39 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:49,990 traveling hypnotized once and that 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:51,729 didn't really work either although 41 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:52,810 certainly believe it's of their real 42 00:01:57,210 --> 00:01:55,420 thing but yeah meditation does seem to 43 00:01:59,700 --> 00:01:57,220 be a part of these experiences now 44 00:02:01,830 --> 00:01:59,710 you'll see that coming to this this 45 00:02:05,969 --> 00:02:01,840 incident which took place which is again 46 00:02:08,940 --> 00:02:05,979 absolutely fascinating so again it 47 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:08,950 involves David and Ricky and they were 48 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:11,260 at in the back garden of David's house 49 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:13,120 it's quite late evening and they're just 50 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:13,930 out there just 51 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:17,049 having a chat item to the stars that's 52 00:02:21,179 --> 00:02:19,209 Dave's back garden there they draw the 53 00:02:22,589 --> 00:02:21,189 kids trampoline and the shed and stuff 54 00:02:25,410 --> 00:02:22,599 and there's a fence at the back with the 55 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:25,420 row trees and all of a sudden and they 56 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:27,280 see a craft comes right overhead in the 57 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:31,209 sky it's quite a low altitude and it 58 00:02:35,839 --> 00:02:32,590 kind of travels through overhead it 59 00:02:38,009 --> 00:02:35,849 looks like the kind of classic 60 00:02:39,259 --> 00:02:38,019 old-fashioned some would say kind of 61 00:02:42,059 --> 00:02:39,269 flying saucer 62 00:02:43,679 --> 00:02:42,069 sort of section on the top straight 63 00:02:45,539 --> 00:02:43,689 edges and then this base section 64 00:02:48,539 --> 00:02:45,549 appeared to have some sort of markings 65 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:48,549 around it which Ricky kind of noticed a 66 00:02:52,770 --> 00:02:51,010 bit more than Dave but the the craft 67 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:52,780 essentially headed off in the into the 68 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:54,310 background over those trees and appeared 69 00:02:59,879 --> 00:02:55,930 like it was going to come down to to 70 00:03:02,490 --> 00:02:59,889 land at that point this kind of change 71 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:02,500 in reality this sense of change came 72 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:05,049 over again it was almost like they were 73 00:03:10,679 --> 00:03:08,049 under control at that point they um they 74 00:03:13,409 --> 00:03:10,689 felt this kind of urge to go back inside 75 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:13,419 the house and sit down in the lands and 76 00:03:17,969 --> 00:03:16,510 start meditating yeah this is it was 77 00:03:19,979 --> 00:03:17,979 kind of like a thought thing that came 78 00:03:21,390 --> 00:03:19,989 to them both I mean they're just sending 79 00:03:22,469 --> 00:03:21,400 you a photo and I just kind of have a 80 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:22,479 head and everything I mean most people 81 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:23,889 have been jumping around when we call 82 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:25,840 the cops or whatever that's what they do 83 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:28,150 they they step back inside they sit down 84 00:03:34,140 --> 00:03:31,180 quite calmly in the lounge I'm solid on 85 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:34,150 two sofas and and they and they sit and 86 00:03:37,339 --> 00:03:35,500 they start you know meditating with 87 00:03:40,289 --> 00:03:37,349 their eyes open their eyes are open and 88 00:03:42,330 --> 00:03:40,299 after a few minutes something else takes 89 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:42,340 place so yeah so they're the control of 90 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:46,000 witnesses so all of a sudden these are 91 00:03:50,059 --> 00:03:48,370 beings humanoids again come into the 92 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:50,069 house they come in through the back door 93 00:03:55,229 --> 00:03:53,049 they don't use the back door they walk 94 00:03:56,999 --> 00:03:55,239 through it interesting that they walk 95 00:03:58,259 --> 00:03:57,009 through the door so they're just walking 96 00:03:59,969 --> 00:03:58,269 straight through the middle of the 97 00:04:01,229 --> 00:03:59,979 window or something very odd but they 98 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:01,239 came in fitted of it they pass through 99 00:04:05,819 --> 00:04:04,030 the sonic closed door and they said 100 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:05,829 don't want him probably not a certain 101 00:04:09,089 --> 00:04:07,329 well at the back this is a his front 102 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:09,099 room one of the sofas here and the other 103 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:11,889 one up there is that's him there and one 104 00:04:17,849 --> 00:04:13,720 of the bees came and sat alongside him 105 00:04:19,979 --> 00:04:17,859 and the Rinne here other me this is the 106 00:04:22,350 --> 00:04:19,989 being that looks just like him so he was 107 00:04:24,089 --> 00:04:22,360 there again been to oversee operated he 108 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:24,099 was kind of standing here and the other 109 00:04:26,930 --> 00:04:26,110 one went and sat down alongside Ricky 110 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:26,940 who's sitting on the 111 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:29,190 Sofer and turns to him that and just 112 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:31,710 stares at him staring at his face almost 113 00:04:35,530 --> 00:04:34,080 like the stem was is somehow controlling 114 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:35,540 him 115 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:39,420 David lies down again control he just 116 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:40,730 felt this urge to lie down on the sofa 117 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:43,290 at that point he has a period of missing 118 00:04:52,190 --> 00:04:48,810 time I come round and the bigs of gone 119 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:52,200 they're no longer in the room and he 120 00:04:57,020 --> 00:04:55,110 turns to Ricky and is like and what took 121 00:04:59,660 --> 00:04:57,030 place and then Ricky had basically year 122 00:05:02,510 --> 00:04:59,670 seen what happened next after after 123 00:05:04,850 --> 00:05:02,520 David laid down and one of the this one 124 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:04,860 next to him but as he came down extra 125 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:07,950 sofa and started running his hand along 126 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:09,840 underneath his body through the solid 127 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:12,060 sofa yeah so his hand was underneath him 128 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:13,800 even though he's lying on the flat on 129 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:15,510 the sofa which is again it's kind of 130 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:18,150 like passing through solid and there's 131 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:19,710 this good light coming from it now he 132 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:20,880 didn't know whether it was food from a 133 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:22,800 tool or from the biggest hand I think 134 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:24,000 he's interpreted it's coming directly 135 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:26,010 from the beans hand but if he did we 136 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:28,230 doing some sort of scan on him and it 137 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:30,300 moved his hand up and up and down along 138 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:31,770 wonder Neath his body like this several 139 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:34,290 times meanwhile this other one still 140 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:36,090 must safer just sitting there staring us 141 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:38,160 him after this thing has done this it 142 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:39,990 kind of gets at this they stand up and 143 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:42,060 they're being alongside him just turns 144 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:45,919 to him and it waves it in my child-wife 145 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:49,110 waves at his face and then he gets up 146 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:52,410 too and the food bings walk out again 147 00:05:56,450 --> 00:05:53,970 through the solid door just walk out the 148 00:05:58,220 --> 00:05:56,460 back and they're gone and within 30 149 00:06:01,250 --> 00:05:58,230 seconds of that is when David comes 150 00:06:03,530 --> 00:06:01,260 round you know it's like he's just woken 151 00:06:05,630 --> 00:06:03,540 back up and that's Ricky what happened 152 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:05,640 and he explains the whole thing now 153 00:06:08,810 --> 00:06:07,320 immediately both of them how they're 154 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:08,820 kind of I'll show you Ricky's own 155 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:11,010 testimony in a second but then they had 156 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:12,750 this weird sense so they were going to 157 00:06:17,330 --> 00:06:15,210 forget the experience now this is this 158 00:06:18,620 --> 00:06:17,340 has been reported before and I believe 159 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:18,630 it's linked with the whole missing time 160 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:21,240 thing I've dealt with an incredible 161 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:23,220 landing case in the middle of Birmingham 162 00:06:27,470 --> 00:06:25,110 where the where the two individuals 163 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:27,480 involved basically had a landing of a 164 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:29,070 craft right in front of them and after 165 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:31,380 the experience they they had no 166 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:32,730 recollection of it at all it was blocked 167 00:06:36,650 --> 00:06:34,560 out completely from their minds for a 168 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:36,660 period of about four years and so it 169 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:38,430 one day came back but that's another 170 00:06:41,750 --> 00:06:40,470 story if you interested in that I can 171 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:41,760 tell you more about that after the talk 172 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:44,610 but so they got this weird sense that 173 00:06:48,290 --> 00:06:46,230 we're going to forget the experience so 174 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:48,300 they supposed started talking each other 175 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:49,710 through what had taken place just to 176 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:51,570 cement it in their minds to make sure 177 00:06:54,110 --> 00:06:52,590 that you know they didn't all of a 178 00:06:56,090 --> 00:06:54,120 sudden feel that what's happened there 179 00:06:57,340 --> 00:06:56,100 and so yeah they still remember today 180 00:07:00,380 --> 00:06:57,350 and everything so once they've done that 181 00:07:03,890 --> 00:07:00,390 processes into cement it's a real 182 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:03,900 experience and so yeah they were there 183 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,520 doing this kind of meditation so they 184 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:06,960 were in the kind of altered state of 185 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:08,730 perception you could say with this 186 00:07:14,060 --> 00:07:12,510 experience and some of you may you know 187 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:14,070 may think I well that's that's what 188 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:16,320 happened that's why it's not real it was 189 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:17,520 just in their minds and you can think 190 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:19,470 that if you like but it is what it is 191 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:22,380 you know Ricky's testimony of what took 192 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:24,750 place I was looking up and a huge craft 193 00:07:28,850 --> 00:07:26,880 came overhead moving really slow and not 194 00:07:30,290 --> 00:07:28,860 very high in the sky at all I could see 195 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:30,300 symbols on the craft and so much 196 00:07:34,370 --> 00:07:33,000 intricate detail all over it it got so 197 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:34,380 low I couldn't see over the fence 198 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:35,850 anymore but it looked like it was going 199 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:40,050 to land somewhere close by I looked 200 00:07:42,980 --> 00:07:41,490 around and saw some beings what this is 201 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:42,990 where is inside the house now I looked 202 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:44,250 around and saw some beings walking 203 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:45,630 straight through days back door while it 204 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:46,380 was still closed 205 00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:47,970 they were you annoyed and look like 206 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:49,590 they're glowing shells to them and you 207 00:07:54,470 --> 00:07:50,940 could barely notice his features of 208 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:54,480 their faces one of them came and sat on 209 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:56,160 the sofa right next to me another came 210 00:07:59,930 --> 00:07:57,570 to the center of the living room and 211 00:08:01,040 --> 00:07:59,940 another stayed near the back door and 212 00:08:02,510 --> 00:08:01,050 the being in the center of the living 213 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:02,520 room walked over to David started 214 00:08:07,190 --> 00:08:04,770 running his hand around Dave's body the 215 00:08:08,630 --> 00:08:07,200 big hand had like coming from it it look 216 00:08:11,150 --> 00:08:08,640 like I was scanning his body for 217 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:11,160 something so you noticed there's slight 218 00:08:16,430 --> 00:08:13,530 difference in in his testimony in the 219 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:16,440 positions in the room but yeah this went 220 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:17,850 on for a few minutes and a being turned 221 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:19,500 to walk battle was the back door the 222 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:21,240 being sat next to me they look right at 223 00:08:25,970 --> 00:08:22,980 me and put a hand up and started waving 224 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:25,980 right in my face I smiled and watch them 225 00:08:30,890 --> 00:08:27,750 walk back through the door this is quite 226 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:30,900 positive experience from a few seconds 227 00:08:34,130 --> 00:08:32,370 later Dave starts up and looked at me 228 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:34,140 and said I think they just had contact 229 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:34,530 Rick 230 00:08:41,330 --> 00:08:39,599 laughed and said yeah you think again 231 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:41,340 it's again this experience was 232 00:08:45,380 --> 00:08:42,990 completely collaborated by two 233 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:45,390 individual people at different times and 234 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:48,000 when I spoke with Ricky it wasn't like 235 00:08:51,860 --> 00:08:49,529 you had any preparation time 236 00:08:53,749 --> 00:08:51,870 like at the blow was sick in the bar and 237 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:53,759 I just got the I've got a dictaphone 238 00:08:57,530 --> 00:08:55,620 half of my mobile phone just started 239 00:09:01,160 --> 00:08:57,540 that going and we had a chat and that's 240 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:01,170 what came out so now I'm going to take 241 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:03,810 you through it and another case which 242 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:06,360 involves their sighting of a great time 243 00:09:15,619 --> 00:09:13,230 entity this is when they code in 2007 so 244 00:09:18,619 --> 00:09:15,629 there's one night Dave said lying in bed 245 00:09:21,410 --> 00:09:18,629 alongside his partner and he wakes up in 246 00:09:22,999 --> 00:09:21,420 the middle of the night and he feels 247 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:23,009 that there's something wrong again it's 248 00:09:25,879 --> 00:09:24,569 this changing perception as I've talked 249 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:25,889 about with the other experience is very 250 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:27,689 very similar because sense of something 251 00:09:33,319 --> 00:09:30,809 wasn't right with the room starts 252 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:33,329 looking around it turns over in bed so 253 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:35,850 again though he's not paralyzed see it 254 00:09:41,239 --> 00:09:38,610 rolls over and immediately he comes 255 00:09:43,460 --> 00:09:41,249 face-to-face and this little guy and 256 00:09:46,489 --> 00:09:43,470 this thing is standing right alongside 257 00:09:49,309 --> 00:09:46,499 his bed it's essentially a great with a 258 00:09:52,009 --> 00:09:49,319 large oval black eyes and it's wearing 259 00:09:54,199 --> 00:09:52,019 this kind of hooded robes kind of put up 260 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:54,209 I've heard of her other concert cases 261 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:55,980 where people have reported those beings 262 00:10:01,100 --> 00:09:58,290 wearing exactly the same clothing as 263 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:01,110 that and he said that next day I woke up 264 00:10:05,059 --> 00:10:02,579 and this guy was standing next to bed 265 00:10:07,249 --> 00:10:05,069 I'm Hailie side about five foot wearing 266 00:10:09,230 --> 00:10:07,259 a hooded brain I tried to grab him they 267 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:09,240 turned and then disappeared yes what 268 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:10,769 happened was a davis line they're 269 00:10:14,269 --> 00:10:12,240 looking at this big and it was almost 270 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:14,279 like the being hand clots that he's 271 00:10:18,980 --> 00:10:16,050 woken up that's what they felt he felt 272 00:10:22,309 --> 00:10:18,990 that this thing was not ready to come 273 00:10:24,019 --> 00:10:22,319 and it appeared to me he didn't know 274 00:10:25,309 --> 00:10:24,029 what the reason why it was there but it 275 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:25,319 didn't appear to be wanting to interact 276 00:10:29,299 --> 00:10:26,970 directly with him maybe was there for 277 00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:29,309 his wife we don't know but either way it 278 00:10:33,379 --> 00:10:30,750 caught it and he's just looking at it 279 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:33,389 it's just lying there on the bed and 280 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:34,860 he's looking at it for about 30 seconds 281 00:10:38,990 --> 00:10:36,689 and this thing is just standing there 282 00:10:40,669 --> 00:10:39,000 not moving and he decided he's got to do 283 00:10:42,259 --> 00:10:40,679 something I mean he's you know he is 284 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:42,269 fully awake at this point it's funny 285 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:43,410 awake he's lying there 286 00:10:46,699 --> 00:10:45,480 this being standing in the room or most 287 00:10:48,379 --> 00:10:46,709 people wouldn't be happy with this 288 00:10:50,239 --> 00:10:48,389 creepy or guys standing in their room 289 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:50,249 really that really would not and he 290 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:52,860 decides he's gonna grab it you know he 291 00:10:56,269 --> 00:10:54,089 doesn't know what else to do ready he 292 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:56,279 goes to reach out for it and he just 293 00:11:00,019 --> 00:10:57,689 kind of split like that and that exact 294 00:11:01,070 --> 00:11:00,029 second and he does the being reacts by 295 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:01,080 backing and turn 296 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:03,450 and as it goes it dissipates and it just 297 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:05,790 fades away into into nothing in front of 298 00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:07,529 him almost like is passed into another 299 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:11,279 level the reality of what I'm he swears 300 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:12,990 he was wide awake in this experience 301 00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:15,330 absolutely he did not go back off to 302 00:11:18,769 --> 00:11:16,740 sleep or anything he got out of bed I 303 00:11:20,090 --> 00:11:18,779 think he woke up his wife and told her 304 00:11:24,670 --> 00:11:20,100 what you know what I just seen there 305 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:24,680 nothing else yeah I mean Oh Dave's 306 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:26,910 relationship with his family is a 307 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:28,470 difficult one because he's had these 308 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:31,200 experiences and and in the years 309 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:33,750 following that he's actually you no 310 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:35,490 longer sleeps in the same room as his 311 00:11:38,449 --> 00:11:36,959 wife and either solar still live 312 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:38,459 together is okay we're telling you this 313 00:11:42,699 --> 00:11:40,130 I've already confirmed the news or up 314 00:11:45,319 --> 00:11:42,709 and it's kind of highlights how these 315 00:11:46,610 --> 00:11:45,329 experiences can deeply affect families 316 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:46,620 and everything you know we would joke 317 00:11:49,579 --> 00:11:47,910 about it and I think all little green 318 00:11:51,530 --> 00:11:49,589 men ha ha you know the x-files and all 319 00:11:54,050 --> 00:11:51,540 that yeah the reality of the content 320 00:11:56,660 --> 00:11:54,060 subject it properly affects people on a 321 00:11:58,639 --> 00:11:56,670 deeply emotional level his wife was 322 00:11:59,810 --> 00:11:58,649 terrified by she hadn't there was 323 00:12:01,280 --> 00:11:59,820 another experience I have enough of this 324 00:12:02,990 --> 00:12:01,290 one which I'm not going to go over but 325 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:03,000 she woke up and again there was a being 326 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:04,800 standing in the room so it still awaited 327 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:06,450 there she was well away it was in the 328 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:10,050 room she blamed it on Dave being there 329 00:12:15,319 --> 00:12:14,040 and his constant experiences and she no 330 00:12:16,940 --> 00:12:15,329 longer wants to sleep in the same room 331 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:16,950 as him so he sleeps downstairs in the 332 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:19,470 lounge in his house and it's quite a 333 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:26,490 difficult situation so yeah he reached 334 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:28,079 out for this being so quite clearly he 335 00:12:31,699 --> 00:12:29,310 wasn't experiencing sleep paralysis 336 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:31,709 because he was fully able to reach out 337 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:34,529 and try to grab it and said if any of 338 00:12:38,930 --> 00:12:37,110 you who you don't know sleep paralysis 339 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:38,940 is where is where your body can shut 340 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:41,610 down you can when we when we fall asleep 341 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:43,680 at night we don't access our dreams at 342 00:12:46,579 --> 00:12:44,910 least most people don't outs out their 343 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:46,589 dreams yeah the reason we don't all that 344 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:48,000 tells our dreams in the nighttime is 345 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,860 because your muscles your body shut down 346 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:51,600 during the night when you get into a 347 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:54,510 deep REM sleep and that's when you dream 348 00:12:58,819 --> 00:12:56,670 yeah well occasionally you can come out 349 00:13:01,220 --> 00:12:58,829 sort of semi out of that sleeping state 350 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:01,230 you can you can be fully aware it's like 351 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:02,910 you've woken back up only partially and 352 00:13:07,970 --> 00:13:05,310 you'll find that you can't move and this 353 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:07,980 can be extremely terrifying and usually 354 00:13:11,810 --> 00:13:09,570 you're either completely paralyzed or 355 00:13:13,580 --> 00:13:11,820 you can move your head or eyes a bit but 356 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:13,590 and anything else and usually when you 357 00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:14,940 try the screen hard the other thing will 358 00:13:19,940 --> 00:13:16,380 come out they'll just become a local 359 00:13:22,430 --> 00:13:19,950 rasping okay now in that scenario you 360 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:22,440 can see strange kind of shapes you can 361 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:24,480 hear sounds you can you can feel that 362 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:25,800 you've been pulled different directions 363 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:28,170 and yes there is a there is a very real 364 00:13:31,540 --> 00:13:29,640 crossover with contact 365 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:31,550 however they are two very very different 366 00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:34,290 experiences in sleep paralysis you never 367 00:13:37,970 --> 00:13:35,880 kind of actually leave your environment 368 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:37,980 and go away to a craft it all takes 369 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:39,390 place in the environment you're in in 370 00:13:42,770 --> 00:13:41,010 your room and so they were known 371 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:42,780 scientific differences between the 372 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:47,310 phenomena that said some people could 373 00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:49,440 have a contact experiences actually 374 00:13:53,270 --> 00:13:51,150 sleep paralysis and they interpreted as 375 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:53,280 contacts you notices it's it's the 376 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:54,330 difficult so do we have to deal with 377 00:14:00,050 --> 00:13:56,970 with the subject so yeah are mentioning 378 00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:00,060 some vanishing of this grating sound you 379 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:01,920 know there's two thousand seven stumped 380 00:14:05,450 --> 00:14:04,080 this isn't a real photograph of Dave's 381 00:14:08,890 --> 00:14:05,460 arm by the way before you ask us just a 382 00:14:11,390 --> 00:14:08,900 representation they'll put up there so 383 00:14:12,950 --> 00:14:11,400 yeah hands up if you know what an alien 384 00:14:16,610 --> 00:14:12,960 implant is many of you will know what 385 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:16,620 that is okay yeah so with contact 386 00:14:21,970 --> 00:14:19,260 sometimes the Econ dirty can find a 387 00:14:24,020 --> 00:14:21,980 small metallic object within them 388 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:24,030 sometimes I have full of our collection 389 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:26,910 of that being placed in them and then 390 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:28,260 they'll kind of feel it underneath their 391 00:14:31,820 --> 00:14:30,630 skin or sometimes they can be placed in 392 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:31,830 the bridge of the nose and then they'll 393 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:33,600 fall out they'll get a nosebleed and it 394 00:14:38,060 --> 00:14:36,210 will drop out of them and these objects 395 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:38,070 are not kind of miniature chip boards or 396 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:39,930 kind of highly advanced alien tech 397 00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:42,180 though we have the evidence right here 398 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:45,240 what they are is a mix of earth metals 399 00:14:49,690 --> 00:14:48,090 but usually in odd in odd mixes of 400 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:49,700 usually wouldn't exist in nature and 401 00:14:55,490 --> 00:14:52,920 Roger Leir across in America is now 402 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:55,500 Saudi deceased but he did all work in 403 00:15:00,170 --> 00:14:58,650 removing implants from convert ease some 404 00:15:01,790 --> 00:15:00,180 of the ask some of the things that they 405 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:01,800 got on record with those implants were 406 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:04,230 nothing short of stunning they had one 407 00:15:07,730 --> 00:15:05,880 of them they took out of some of the was 408 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:07,740 giving off radio in missing radio waves 409 00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:10,020 it didn't have any tech didn't appear 410 00:15:13,190 --> 00:15:11,190 have any tech inside it but it was 411 00:15:14,810 --> 00:15:13,200 emitting radio waves while it was inside 412 00:15:16,460 --> 00:15:14,820 the person that took it out the person 413 00:15:19,370 --> 00:15:16,470 and and it stopped emitting the waves 414 00:15:21,890 --> 00:15:19,380 another one moved around another surface 415 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:21,900 of the skin actually sort move they went 416 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:23,690 to try to grab the thing and 417 00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:25,010 we moved up the person's arm with its 418 00:15:28,990 --> 00:15:26,870 own accord these things whatever they 419 00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:29,000 are they may look like just random 420 00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:31,100 collections of metal using the kind of 421 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:33,950 circular shape but they're clearly not 422 00:15:36,670 --> 00:15:35,810 and it's something but I believe it's 423 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:36,680 something that they're putting into 424 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:38,630 either track them or perhaps monitor 425 00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:40,670 body systems and sometimes they appear 426 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:42,320 connected directly to the central 427 00:15:46,090 --> 00:15:43,690 nervous system and the individual 428 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:46,100 absolutely fascinating aspect to contact 429 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:48,110 and it's something that I think that 430 00:15:51,010 --> 00:15:49,250 science should look at a lot more 431 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:51,020 because it's physical it's something 432 00:15:55,270 --> 00:15:53,420 that you can test in the lab you know so 433 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:55,280 yeah we have they say incident that 434 00:16:01,870 --> 00:15:57,970 happened with this with this implant 435 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:01,880 so David um for a while used to work as 436 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:04,070 a kind of manufacturing plants in Vista 437 00:16:07,630 --> 00:16:06,290 you know kind of just pretty boring job 438 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:07,640 is just kind of taking these boxes along 439 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:10,250 this conveyor belt and to make sure 440 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:11,480 there was no metal fragments in the 441 00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:13,400 boxes he kind of passed them and you 442 00:16:18,610 --> 00:16:14,870 know pass them along the conveyor belts 443 00:16:20,110 --> 00:16:18,620 and and off the end of it one day it's 444 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:20,120 down there and the boxes are coming on 445 00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:22,130 slowly so he's get a bit bored and he 446 00:16:25,390 --> 00:16:24,080 wants to get home so he kind of reaches 447 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:25,400 through the metal detector to get the 448 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:26,780 bots to put it through faster you know 449 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:29,510 so he could just finish up and the metal 450 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:33,470 detector goes off put his left hand in 451 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:34,730 or something in his left hand through 452 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:36,590 and and it goes off he's not wearing any 453 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:39,050 rings or anything incidentally and it 454 00:16:41,650 --> 00:16:40,400 goes off in his eye what's going on here 455 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:41,660 so it calls over his manager enough 456 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:42,980 thing as measure so what Miller suffered 457 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:45,350 with the Machine was it gone off and he 458 00:16:49,420 --> 00:16:46,730 shows him again he puts it in handing 459 00:16:51,490 --> 00:16:49,430 again again he goes off the alarm and it 460 00:16:54,670 --> 00:16:51,500 is boss was his anding absolutely 461 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:54,680 nothing and they couldn't explain it you 462 00:16:57,490 --> 00:16:55,910 know and they just kind of left it like 463 00:17:00,190 --> 00:16:57,500 that essentially that his hand on that 464 00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:00,200 day while setting off the machine yeah 465 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:01,670 implying that there was something 466 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:03,170 metallic inside his hand that he 467 00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:05,569 couldn't see so it was proven not to be 468 00:17:09,010 --> 00:17:07,310 a machine malfunction as I said the year 469 00:17:10,050 --> 00:17:09,020 the boss put his hand in it when it 470 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:10,060 wasn't doing it with him 471 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:14,000 and they didn't check it again I said it 472 00:17:19,390 --> 00:17:17,930 may still be present maybe is I need to 473 00:17:22,179 --> 00:17:19,400 get hold of a one of those our stud 474 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:22,189 finders and it's possible that you know 475 00:17:26,530 --> 00:17:24,890 maybe it's still in his hand sometimes I 476 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:26,540 come to taste kind of having a very 477 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:28,010 period of time and then they'll be and 478 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:29,600 then I'll be removed to that Iran and 479 00:17:31,660 --> 00:17:30,770 they'll sometimes actually have an 480 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:31,670 abduction Swim's 481 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:33,110 where they remember it actually being 482 00:17:38,299 --> 00:17:35,370 taken out and other times it will just 483 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:38,309 I mean vanish this is a photograph of a 484 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:40,140 real alien implant there that's one of 485 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:42,450 the ones I removed by Roger Leir in the 486 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:44,730 USA is kind of rounded triangular shape 487 00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:47,010 and I dealt with a case north of 488 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:49,230 Birmingham where the lady had one inside 489 00:17:53,090 --> 00:17:50,730 at risk that was almost exactly that 490 00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:53,100 shape but she wasn't willing to she 491 00:17:57,380 --> 00:17:54,390 didn't want to go down the kind of x-ray 492 00:17:59,900 --> 00:17:57,390 route but I it was metallic it set off a 493 00:18:01,100 --> 00:17:59,910 metal detector in front of me and I felt 494 00:18:02,930 --> 00:18:01,110 the surface of her skin 495 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:02,940 it was a rounded triangular shaped 496 00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:05,010 object that was made out of metal we 497 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:06,120 never got any further than that with 498 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:09,210 that investigation but even so so very 499 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:14,970 interesting there summer 2012 now as I 500 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:16,500 say this is an ongoing case it carries 501 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:23,640 on to present-day this this incident is 502 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,080 particularly fascinating because it 503 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,880 doesn't directly involve David actually 504 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,520 involves one of his friends felt who was 505 00:18:35,169 --> 00:18:31,200 it who was there let me give me a bit of 506 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:35,179 background right so I did say Dave got 507 00:18:39,470 --> 00:18:37,679 difficulties with his family life and 508 00:18:41,090 --> 00:18:39,480 the periods of time he's needed 509 00:18:43,610 --> 00:18:41,100 essentially kind of tight time out from 510 00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:43,620 his life and he's kind of moved out the 511 00:18:48,110 --> 00:18:45,660 house focuses on totally still living 512 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:48,120 back there at the moment but for a while 513 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:51,120 he he pitched a tent in the outskirts of 514 00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:53,220 bicester and this kind of wooded some 515 00:18:58,250 --> 00:18:55,860 bomb mildly wooded area on the outskirts 516 00:19:00,320 --> 00:18:58,260 of Vista there's the 10 pitch sign the 517 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:00,330 trader he lived there for 10 months and 518 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:02,250 then moved back home it was just 519 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:03,510 basically just trying to come to terms 520 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:05,130 with what was happening in his life of 521 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:08,460 his experiences and let things settle 522 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:12,090 with his family that's the 10th pitch 523 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:13,770 site where he took me out to where his 524 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:15,990 tent was pitched so you can see it's 525 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:17,490 very very close to their houses you know 526 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:19,080 there was a half the runs along here 527 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:21,270 through there and it's you know spell it 528 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,890 Shelton from the person's bad garden by 529 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:24,480 only by a few trees so it's not like 530 00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:25,770 he's out in the wilderness in the middle 531 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:27,630 of nowhere and you know there were some 532 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:29,130 shops down here that he could you know 533 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:31,170 easily get to in that sort of thing but 534 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:32,610 while he was there while he was in the 535 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,929 tent his friends would come and visit 536 00:19:37,870 --> 00:19:35,520 him you know just to kind of relax and 537 00:19:42,410 --> 00:19:37,880 some of capturing to chat with him and 538 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:42,420 one night is a his friend film is there 539 00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:43,560 and they you know they've been out for 540 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:45,240 the evening and they were returning to 541 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:46,559 the year to the 542 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:50,130 and thought was hanging around a bit 543 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:51,450 further down from where the tech was 544 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:52,679 just a bit further along the path by 545 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:55,049 these trees and David just had a bat so 546 00:19:58,450 --> 00:19:56,490 Tennant remember wives going to pick 547 00:20:01,130 --> 00:19:58,460 something up from the tent or whatever 548 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:01,140 Wally's up there and Phil's standing on 549 00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:04,470 his own all of a sudden it realized he's 550 00:20:09,980 --> 00:20:06,900 not alone there's a being standing in 551 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:09,990 front of him it's a female ship she's 552 00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:13,380 got long cut a pearl brown hair and she 553 00:20:17,659 --> 00:20:15,990 appeared to be wearing sort of camo kind 554 00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:17,669 of colors kind of mix of greens and 555 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:20,460 browns there were also two other beings 556 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:22,049 here although Philbin's see those are 557 00:20:25,010 --> 00:20:23,610 sorry I'm getting a bit ahead here this 558 00:20:27,770 --> 00:20:25,020 is the location where this occurred that 559 00:20:29,030 --> 00:20:27,780 tree there is that tree okay so the 560 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:29,040 biggest under the thought was here by 561 00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:31,590 the tree and this female was in front of 562 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:33,960 him all of a sudden out of the blue and 563 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:35,370 they start having a communication a 564 00:20:39,380 --> 00:20:37,410 telepathic communication starts 565 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:39,390 occurring with Dave not present just 566 00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:41,010 Phil it's almost like the being was 567 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:44,700 there for Phil right now for a period of 568 00:20:47,870 --> 00:20:46,110 months Phil of being questioned the 569 00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:47,880 reality of David's experiences he was 570 00:20:50,270 --> 00:20:49,230 finding it very hard to handle some of 571 00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:50,280 the things that they were sending him 572 00:20:53,810 --> 00:20:52,380 though he was going through and it's 573 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:53,820 almost like this being it appeared to 574 00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:56,730 Phil to clarify and confirm that there 575 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:01,200 were indeed real to him and he found it 576 00:21:06,409 --> 00:21:02,490 very hard to deal with it a lot of the 577 00:21:08,210 --> 00:21:06,419 communication again it's it's very tries 578 00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:08,220 to explain this you don't hear it in 579 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:09,809 words it doesn't come out audibly it's 580 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:11,280 kind of more like feelings and thoughts 581 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,290 like this and a lot of the time after 582 00:21:16,669 --> 00:21:15,120 the experience is over you can't 583 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,679 remember a lot of what's being said so 584 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:18,000 at the time when you're undergoing it 585 00:21:21,380 --> 00:21:19,410 it's like you're fully there with it but 586 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:21,390 afterwards a lot of its kind of blood 587 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:24,120 this is just the way it goes Dave comes 588 00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:25,650 back from the tent and comes back down 589 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:29,280 and sees Phil standing there apparently 590 00:21:32,299 --> 00:21:30,900 in communication with this being a just 591 00:21:34,610 --> 00:21:32,309 he's just standing there looking at them 592 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,620 bias and she's staring at him and he 593 00:21:37,970 --> 00:21:36,480 also notices two other beings back here 594 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,980 they're in these shadows of just in 595 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,080 silhouettes when you consider appeared 596 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:42,240 to be two other beings probably male I 597 00:21:45,409 --> 00:21:43,679 was studying about there this one he 598 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:45,419 recognized this is the female being that 599 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:47,730 was in his trigger experience where him 600 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,049 his wife and his daughter were taken 601 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:51,360 that I mentioned earlier on so it was 602 00:21:56,419 --> 00:21:54,290 the same the same one he recognized 603 00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:56,429 several minutes ago my David didn't want 604 00:21:58,499 --> 00:21:57,159 to interrupt 605 00:22:00,299 --> 00:21:58,509 whatever was taking place he was just 606 00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:00,309 standing back watching it now that's 607 00:22:05,729 --> 00:22:02,559 about some minute um all the sudden Phil 608 00:22:08,339 --> 00:22:05,739 puts his hand up lap and at that point 609 00:22:10,019 --> 00:22:08,349 the the being kind of dissipates again 610 00:22:11,369 --> 00:22:10,029 just fades away into nothing in front of 611 00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,379 him and the old ones are gone as well 612 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:13,840 and Phil comes around it's almost like 613 00:22:17,849 --> 00:22:15,039 he's been in this kind of trance-like 614 00:22:19,249 --> 00:22:17,859 state and and starts talking about you 615 00:22:21,989 --> 00:22:19,259 know what had happened with this and 616 00:22:23,879 --> 00:22:21,999 Dave finds that that you know that he 617 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:23,889 hadn't got so full recollection but he 618 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:25,809 confirmed that you know these things 619 00:22:31,139 --> 00:22:28,710 have been there and he'd seen them 620 00:22:34,349 --> 00:22:31,149 so yeah the focus was clearly on Phil 621 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:34,359 not David in this instance I've already 622 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:35,710 covered the yo-yo the reason why this 623 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:37,210 could have taken place is my personal 624 00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:39,369 belief that these beings were confirming 625 00:22:44,009 --> 00:22:42,190 to fill their reality and that it 626 00:22:45,930 --> 00:22:44,019 appeared to be there to pass on any kind 627 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:45,940 of messages of peace for the universe or 628 00:22:50,399 --> 00:22:48,849 anything like that there are a few 629 00:22:53,310 --> 00:22:50,409 discrepancies in the recollection of the 630 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:53,320 event which is interesting film 631 00:22:58,529 --> 00:22:55,330 remembers these this female are having a 632 00:23:01,080 --> 00:22:58,539 black completely black eyes kind of are 633 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:01,090 javis like they're Gray's eyes now David 634 00:23:04,229 --> 00:23:03,070 on the numerous times he's seen her he 635 00:23:06,570 --> 00:23:04,239 says that her eyes are very human 636 00:23:08,339 --> 00:23:06,580 looking with irises now now as I spoke 637 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:08,349 with both the individual people and they 638 00:23:13,739 --> 00:23:11,769 confirm this and they they're ab c-- 639 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:13,749 adamant they cross chat with each other 640 00:23:17,099 --> 00:23:15,129 they're still adamant that that's what 641 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:17,109 they saw it's my belief that his thing 642 00:23:21,149 --> 00:23:19,090 was appearing in different ways to them 643 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:21,159 so it was taking on different appearance 644 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:22,960 for maybe what they expected to see from 645 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:25,239 it who knows I know a few other 646 00:23:28,379 --> 00:23:26,769 discrepancies which you'll see in a in 647 00:23:34,909 --> 00:23:28,389 Phil's testimony which I'll go through 648 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:37,080 as I was walking down the line towards 649 00:23:41,159 --> 00:23:39,340 Eden Eden is the area where Ted was 650 00:23:42,509 --> 00:23:41,169 pitch their nickname did that a lot the 651 00:23:44,489 --> 00:23:42,519 ghost fields are like the good places 652 00:23:46,769 --> 00:23:44,499 named so then the nickname the place 653 00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,779 where they was even I noticed something 654 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,159 I'd never observed before in my 655 00:23:52,109 --> 00:23:50,080 peripheral vision this attracted my 656 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:52,119 attention so I turned to my right I was 657 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:53,590 now facing a humanoid being which 658 00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:54,609 appeared to be female 659 00:23:58,979 --> 00:23:56,559 she was roughly the same height as me as 660 00:24:01,560 --> 00:23:58,989 we stood I to I the being had long dark 661 00:24:04,229 --> 00:24:01,570 hair with pale skin tone eyes were big 662 00:24:06,539 --> 00:24:04,239 and black as angelic I noticed that her 663 00:24:08,369 --> 00:24:06,549 jaw line was elongated which caused the 664 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:08,379 chin and mouth to be disproportionate to 665 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:10,690 arise the space around her was 666 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:14,290 colorful but distorted I had some 667 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:15,760 questions forming in my mind about the 668 00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,530 validity of what I was experiencing 669 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:19,600 before I could form a sentence every 670 00:24:24,020 --> 00:24:21,490 question was getting answered I'm sure 671 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:24,030 we were communicating via telepathy I 672 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:26,650 felt compelled to check the solid it of 673 00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:28,870 the solidity of this humanoid figure so 674 00:24:32,490 --> 00:24:30,430 I placed my right hand on my left 675 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,500 shoulder at this point I realized that 676 00:24:37,530 --> 00:24:34,240 this was very real I felt slightly 677 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:37,540 uneasy after looking around I realized I 678 00:24:41,850 --> 00:24:39,760 couldn't see Dave it was suggested that 679 00:24:44,370 --> 00:24:41,860 I go and retrieve him from the bottom of 680 00:24:46,530 --> 00:24:44,380 Eden my next question was what if you 681 00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:46,540 aren't here when I get back then I could 682 00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:48,640 see this mental image of this being Dave 683 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:52,780 and I all stood communicating I asked if 684 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:54,490 he wanted to say hi say went up to get 685 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:56,110 David in his recollection of what took 686 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,410 place 687 00:25:00,450 --> 00:24:58,240 he left the Bing and walked over to get 688 00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:00,460 David Dave his recollection and don't 689 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:02,020 forget that David isn't under underneath 690 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:04,450 this altered state of this point it just 691 00:25:07,470 --> 00:25:05,890 feels completely normal 692 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:07,480 he walks back and sees felling 693 00:25:11,070 --> 00:25:08,560 communication so there is this 694 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:11,080 discrepancy which is interesting I asked 695 00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:12,670 if he wanted to say hi to this Bing I 696 00:25:16,770 --> 00:25:14,950 just met Dave personality didn't seem 697 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:16,780 any different and he agreed so he 698 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:18,490 continued to walk back down the lane as 699 00:25:22,890 --> 00:25:21,010 we did so David already acknowledged the 700 00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:22,900 Bing as we approached and didn't need to 701 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:25,840 point it out once arriving back we all 702 00:25:29,610 --> 00:25:27,370 stood in one another's company not 703 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:29,620 speaking at this point I became fearful 704 00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:32,410 of the reality I was facing I raised my 705 00:25:35,970 --> 00:25:34,180 hand to the Bing and then it disappeared 706 00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:35,980 so that's what Dave saw I saw the end of 707 00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:37,960 the experience felt raising his arm up 708 00:25:42,930 --> 00:25:39,790 like that but to him it made no sense 709 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:42,940 until after Phil had confirmed what was 710 00:25:47,010 --> 00:25:45,280 going on with us so it's an incredible 711 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:47,020 incredible experience there and it's 712 00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:49,090 very interesting that the focus is one 713 00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:51,340 of his friends not Dave this time so you 714 00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:53,620 can see how this is affecting people in 715 00:26:01,860 --> 00:25:56,080 in his kind of collective not not just 716 00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:01,870 him directly move on now to a 2014 which 717 00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:03,150 is where we start talking about music 718 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:07,030 cosmoses which Dave didn't start with 719 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:08,770 the name cosmos SATs we call their 720 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:12,550 unnamed 131 that was his moniker and he 721 00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:15,450 released a number of songs on YouTube 722 00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:18,660 played a few sore folk rock gigs in that 723 00:26:24,010 --> 00:26:22,270 but it wasn't in in in early 2014 they 724 00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:24,020 started to explore the idea 725 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:25,550 of coming together and forming it 726 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:26,930 probably abandoned him and a few his 727 00:26:32,650 --> 00:26:29,840 friends and now some very interesting 728 00:26:33,850 --> 00:26:32,660 things happened around this time period 729 00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:33,860 where they were just starting to work on 730 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:35,900 tracks and this other thing there was 731 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:37,550 one night and him and Adam at their 732 00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:39,650 house of mixing their setup and they 733 00:26:44,830 --> 00:26:41,830 were working on some music tracks and 734 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,840 this experience involved Adam not David 735 00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:46,640 he hadn't woke up in the middle of the 736 00:26:51,550 --> 00:26:49,040 night and he was he was sleeping on the 737 00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:51,560 other side of the room and he looks over 738 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:54,320 at the mixing desk and he saw this being 739 00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:55,760 and the meet at the mixer they're 740 00:26:59,860 --> 00:26:57,740 standing alongside it it was a 741 00:27:04,360 --> 00:26:59,870 translucent and glowing entity of some 742 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:04,370 kind and in the morning they went and 743 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:06,530 check the music and apparently it was 744 00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:08,060 all mixed I know this sounds ridiculous 745 00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:09,680 you know I know that sounds funny as 746 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:11,240 hell doesn't it you know David himself 747 00:27:18,010 --> 00:27:15,440 says it's just crazy you know I know it 748 00:27:19,390 --> 00:27:18,020 sounds too almost hard to believe but it 749 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:19,400 appeared that their being had kind of 750 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,710 actually mucked around with it with the 751 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:23,120 mixing desk and stuff I don't know 752 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:25,370 whether that's just you know what they 753 00:27:28,420 --> 00:27:26,990 got from it but he said that there was 754 00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:28,430 differences with their music when they 755 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,960 when they checked it and stuff and you 756 00:27:34,810 --> 00:27:32,000 know maybe this ping had done something 757 00:27:36,610 --> 00:27:34,820 with it something a lot more definite is 758 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:36,620 what happened with the song Love is here 759 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:39,470 which is one of Dave's tracks and this 760 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:42,260 song came about he believes directly 761 00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:44,330 from the entities in copies in contact 762 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:46,400 with him in all seriousness and what 763 00:27:51,130 --> 00:27:49,250 happened with this was he woke up one 764 00:27:52,990 --> 00:27:51,140 morning and it was a rental after 9:00 765 00:27:56,140 --> 00:27:53,000 in the morning and this was going out 766 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:56,150 and I was just sitting on the sofa and I 767 00:27:58,420 --> 00:27:57,110 don't was supposed to come around later 768 00:28:01,030 --> 00:27:58,430 in the day for them to work on some 769 00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:01,040 tracks with other day all of a sudden it 770 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:03,500 gets really really really tired you said 771 00:28:06,190 --> 00:28:04,880 he didn't feel ill or anything it was 772 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,200 just all of a sudden this kind of almost 773 00:28:09,970 --> 00:28:08,000 like sedated type feeling and he drops 774 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:09,980 back off which is very rare doesn't 775 00:28:14,770 --> 00:28:12,610 usually just get something stays awake 776 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:14,780 when he comes around he finds out about 777 00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:17,210 an hour's gone by and there's now 778 00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:18,920 something about 11 o'clock it's all time 779 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:22,220 and immediately he's got a song in his 780 00:28:26,020 --> 00:28:24,440 mind and he's not just got the song he's 781 00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:26,030 got everything he's got the lyrics he's 782 00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:27,920 got the chords it's got everything it's 783 00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:30,080 like a song at thin air immediately he 784 00:28:32,860 --> 00:28:31,640 goes and grabs a paper he writes it all 785 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:32,870 down what's in there it's coming out all 786 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:34,610 Malta Maithili so they barely had to 787 00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:35,770 even think about it 788 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:37,390 writing like this and he knows exactly 789 00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:39,010 how the song goes and everything 790 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:42,700 he takes it round to show Adam and 791 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:44,500 within the hour they've recorded it and 792 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:46,090 got it down and it becomes an actual 793 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:48,220 song you know there was no thought 794 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:50,170 process way it was like ah as a next 795 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:51,970 verse gonna go or anything just flowed 796 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:53,950 out his mind now he personally believes 797 00:28:58,980 --> 00:28:56,650 that this this song and its contents 798 00:29:02,700 --> 00:28:58,990 have come directly from the beings and 799 00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:02,710 the song is quite there so it's quite a 800 00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:04,180 powerful summer and it's all about kind 801 00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:05,920 of the universal love and humans coming 802 00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:07,960 together you know and so getting rid of 803 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:09,400 our differences and this other thing you 804 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:11,710 know it's a quite a positive positive 805 00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:14,290 vibes of the lyrics and I think it's 806 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:15,460 absolutely fascinating you know that 807 00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:17,590 this could have come from them and maybe 808 00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:19,270 something that they wanted him to put 809 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:21,190 out through the music I know this sounds 810 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:23,610 well but this is what happened does 811 00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:25,930 there was another incident that happened 812 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:28,420 within within a week of that one with so 813 00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:29,770 they're still working on this album and 814 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:31,000 everything and then everyday they're 815 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:33,370 working on the traps and one day them in 816 00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:34,450 there in the living room they're all 817 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:36,790 standing there there's Dave Adam it's 818 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:38,290 Ricky and there's our other friend Mark 819 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:40,870 and at least Dave's daughter is also 820 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:43,330 there and all standing there they're